Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson’s campaign has now officially gone on the record condemning the FDA’s regulation of the vaping industry.
To date, no other candidate has weighed in on the issue.
“In the first debate, voters listened to two candidates dance around the American economy,” said Jim Wallace, national director of the Johnson-Weld campaign. “What you’ll never hear from those candidates is how the economy is being killed by excessive regulation. That just doesn’t make any sense.”
He said that he believes vaping is about to be regulated out of existence.
“The vaping industry currently counts about nine million customers, producing about $4 billion a year in annual sales,” he said, citing figures from industry sources. “With the excessive regulation recently introduced by the FDA, as many as 12,000 vaping businesses will be put out of business.”
The regulations require manufacturers to go through a costly pre-market approval process estimated to cost as much as $300,000 to $1 million per SKU. Most believe that such regulations will simply crush the industry, regulating it out of existence.
“As Gov. Gary Johnson has said, the free market and entrepreneurial spirit should be encouraged, not destroyed,” Wallace said. “Nowhere is this more obvious than the vaping industry.”
Corey Noles is the Editor in Chief of VAPE Magazine. He is also the owner of Inked Up E-Liquid Co. and Busted Knuckle Vapor Fluids. Contact him at firstname.lastname@example.org.
I’m consistently surprised by the number of business owners I talk to, especially in this industry, who haven’t formed a business entity. A business entity is a legal entity, such as a corporation or a limited liability company (“LLC”), under which a business is operated. If you’re doing business on your own without a business entity, then you’re operating as a sole proprietorship, even if you use a trade name or “dba.” The differences here are substantial and well worth understanding.
Let’s say that you own and operate a vape shop. A customer comes in to pick up some new juice, and your giant chandelier falls on his head. Or maybe he slips, cartoon-style, on an inconveniently discarded banana peel. Or maybe he buys some hot-garbage- flavored juice and yaks so hard after the first hit that he ends up in the hospital with a torn oblique thinking that his appendix burst. Either way, something has happened, and you’re now facing a lawsuit. Business owners hate it, but the reality is that lawsuits are just a fact of life for anyone operating a business these days, and the vapor products industry is, despite the fact that it’s full of some of the world’s most laidback people, sadly no exception.
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Now, let’s make things a little bit worse. The plaintiff wins the lawsuit, and the shop owner is looking at a substantial judgment. If the shop owner was operating as a sole proprietorship, then the plaintiff could satisfy that judgment against the shop owner himself. That means that the owner’s savings account, house, car, wages, and so forth are all theoretically at risk. If, however, there was a validly formed, properly run corporation or LLC in place, then only the assets owned by that business entity would be available to satisfy the plaintiff’s judgment. This is the single greatest advantage to forming a business entity, and it’s called “limited liability.”
Many people I talk to understand the concept of limited liability, but what they don’t always understand is that it’s not automatic. It’s not enough to just form a corporation or LLC and call it a day. You actually need to run it properly and adhere to various formalities if you want it to work for you. If you don’t, someone who sues you can “pierce the corporate veil” and go after your assets personally, meaning that you aren’t getting the single greatest benefit – limited liability – out of your business entity.
Piercing the veil, in addition to being a pretty decent name for a metal band, is a concept whereby courts disregard the corporate entity and impose liability directly on the business owner. Exactly when and where the corporate veil gets pierced depends on the state, the judge, and the facts of each case, but there are some general guidelines to keep in mind.
In general, courts are more likely to pierce the corporate veil and hold you personally liable if the corporation feels like a sham entity set up purely to shield you from liability.
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In making this evaluation, courts look to a variety of different factors. One of the biggest factors is whether you the business owner actually treat your corporation like it’s a real, separate business. Do you have separate bank accounts for the corporation? Do you keep separate records and only pay the businesses’ bills from the corporate checking account? Or do you co-mingle your personal money in the same account as the corporation uses, paying your personal mortgage from the corporate account? It’s crucial to maintain the corporation at all times like it is truly what’s running the business, not like something that you just set up in case you get sued.
Another factor that courts look at when deciding whether to pierce the corporate veil is whether corporate formalities were followed. Did you have the right number of meetings every year?
Were minutes taken? Do you have by-laws, articles, officers, and a board of directors? Are you making the required annual payments to your state’s Secretary of State?
Have taxes been filed for the corporation? Formalities like this can seem minor, and may even feel silly in a corporation with only a few officers or shareholders, but they can be a lifesaver if you ever get sued.
At the end of the day, the point is that businesses entities can be extremely useful, but it isn’t enough to just form one using downloaded legal forms and walk away hoping for the best. It’s crucial to talk to an attorney who can advise you not only how to form the entity, but also how to operate it so that you actually get the benefit of that entity. Otherwise, you’re just crossing your fingers and hoping for a banana-peel-free floor.
In 2015, the number of fire-related deaths in Minnesota was much higher than what was witnessed over the last two years, but the state has seen a drastic reduction in fire deaths this year, and it could be due to fewer people lighting up as more of them turn to vaping.
Minnesota State Fire Marshal Bruce West says that as the colder months approach, the rate of fire-related incidents that can result in fatalities tends to spike as residents turn to heat sources that have the potential to cause great harm, like space heaters and ovens.
However, West stresses that the most common risk comes from lit cigarettes that when left unmonitored could cause fires that can grow uncontrollably, resulting in the destruction of personal property and a loss of life.
“The number one cause of fire related deaths continues to be careless smoking. The number one identified cause. So people either quitting smoking or moving to vaping, that could be one of the underlying reductions in this,” West told MPR News. “That’s something that we will definitely take a look at.”
For a more complete look at this story, click here for the MPR News article.
The entire vaping industry is painfully aware by now that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Final Rule, deeming tobacco products to be subject to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, went into effect on August 8.
What are some of the rule’s implications for manufacturers, importers, retailers and consumers? As the industry feels that the rule is vastly inadequate and disproportionately onerous on manufacturers of vaping products, given the tobacco harm reduction potential of these products, what can still be done to redress this situation?
In brief, the rule will enable the FDA to review new tobacco products not yet on the market (and, one must add, review and possibly take off the market many of the current, newly regulated products); help prevent misleading claims by tobacco product manufacturers, evaluate the ingredients and manufacturing of tobacco products, and communicate the potential risks of tobacco products, according to the FDA.
Notably, the rule does not meet societal expectations to impose product standards. Those must be issued pursuant to separate rulemaking, and the rule does not impose an obligation on the FDA to communicate relative risks of the newly regulated products versus conventional combustible cigarettes.
Additionally, the rule fails to distinguish among finished products, spare parts and other elements, imposing the same very onerous pre-market review requirements on practically anything and everything sold to consumers. This includes items that can be bundled or used with, or as a replacement part, or enhancement of, a newly regulated product.
What Can Retailers Expect to See After August 8?
The first type of activity the FDA will engage in will be retailer inspections, typically through subcontracted state authorities. As of August 8, age verification becomes mandatory, and automated self-service units may only be placed in age-verified, adult-only venues. Thus, retailers will be inspected openly or anonymously to ensure age verification is conducted at the point of sale, and that minors do not manage to buy products. Online retailers are required to have suitable age verification in place—though the FDA will not suggest any particular provider or age verification scheme, and thus can expect that FDA agents will attempt to make purchases on behalf of underage individuals.
Retailer violations will typically be noted in warning letters. Numerous examples of warning letters to retailers of conventional cigarette products may be found at http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/
If a retailer receives a warning letter, the retailer may contact the Center for Tobacco Products (CTP) if he or she would like more information—though more information will not necessarily be provided.
The FDA requires that the retailer respond to the warning letter within 15 working days, in writing, by mail or email, and include an explanation of the steps the retailer will take to correct the violation(s) and prevent future violations. For example, the retailer could submit that he or she would retrain employees and remove the problematic items, etc. The retailer must also provide their current contact information, and the FDA may also recommend training. While retailer training is not mandatory, the FDA provides a few resources for retailers wishing to train their sales staff.
It is expected that the FDA will conduct a flurry of retailer inspection activities on an ongoing basis, as this is the most visible and easiest type of enforcement the FDA can undertake promptly.
With respect to manufacturing activities at the retail level, it may be an objective of retailer inspections as well, though personally I suspect more senior CTP staff might become involved with such inspections. This is due to the level of detail and documentation that might be required to conclude a manufacturing violation has actually taken place.
What Can Manufacturers Expect to See After August 8?
The FDA may inspect manufacturers at any time after August 8, however, the deadline for manufacturers and importers (which fall within the definition of a manufacturer) to file a facility registration and product listing is December 31, and therefore, the FDA is not likely to have the necessary information as to where and what to inspect before that date.
Our view is that manufacturer inspections might start early in 2017. There is still considerable confusion as to whether foreign based manufacturers will be inspected. The FDA surely has that authority and at an industry conference call in May, their CTP director suggested all is fair game in the industry.
Foreign manufacturers should require clarifications from the FDA on this topic. The FDA routinely inspects Chinese and Indian facilities engaged in manufacturing of other FDA regulated products, such as drugs and devices.
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the very first FDA inspections with less disruption. Initial FDA visits may only seek to establish a benchmark for future inspection, however, do expect extensive requests for document production during those early inspections.
Deeming Rule Deadlines and the Future
There are various compliance deadlines for manufacturers, retailers, importers, and distributors. The FDA captured those in a rather comprehensive document available on their website at: http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation
Notably, the next deadline refers to the most onerous requirement, which is submitting a pre-market tobacco product application (PMTA). This may very well signal the beginning of the end for many in our industry.
As we all know, when the FDA issued the Deeming Rule, it also published a draft guidance entitled, Premarket Tobacco Product Applications for Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems (ENDS), and therein lies the rub. While the guidance is supposedly “non-binding”, we all know the FDA always follows its own guidance and allows itself to request, in fact, much more information than what is listed in the guidance.
Those of us with a long history of engagement with the FDA, and having successfully navigated similar requirements, understand the complexity of the information and studies required in support of a PMTA and find that time, availability of research facilities, and cost might render the PMTA pathway available to only a few.
It is also blatantly unfair that the FDA will take products off the market as of August 8, 2019 if they fail to review the respective PMTA applications duly filed by August 2018 because of the FDA’s own speed of review. Namely, a leading official at the CTP clearly stated in a recent webinar that, if FDA does not get around to reviewing a PMTA application by August 8, 2019, it will order the respective product off the market and continue reviewing the PMTA at its leisure—while the manufacturer presumably shuts down its operation and goes home, waiting indefinitely for some sort of resurrection.
Given the expected enormous number of potential PMTA applications (our estimate, not the FDA’s), there are likely not enough scientists in the entire FDA to review them before the extended compliance deadline of August 8, 2019.
It’s not all doom and gloom, though. Given sufficient resources and more time, a good faith PMTA may be submitted, but few companies will have the know-how, resources, and willingness to engage in such multi-million dollar undertakings that can ultimately lend themselves to improbable outcomes.
So what has been done, and can be done, to ensure the industry’s survival, give hope to smokers who want less risky products, and avert a tobacco-harm-reduction catastrophe?
Promptly and upon publication of the Deeming Rule, Nicopure Labs filed the first and to this day, the fastest moving lawsuit against FDA in Washington, D.C. Circuit Court.
A coalition of companies joined that lawsuit within a matter of weeks, and the respective plaintiffs’ motions for summary judgment have been filed already. The complaint challenges the rule in its entirety and also selected provisions of the rule. Several interested entities have moved to file amicus briefs in support of the plaintiffs and at least one in support of the defendant. Several other separate lawsuits were filed by other newly regulated manufacturers, and one even on behalf of consumers.
We believe Nicopure et al. v FDA et al. will provide the earliest resolution and clarity to our industry, one way or another, which was our goal all along. I am as curious as you, the reader, to find out whether our hard work and sacrifice will pay off in this case, but predictions are never appropriate in litigation. Let’s just say that we have faith in the justice system as our last resort.
In addition to litigation, which might provide complete or partial relief to the industry as early as 2017, various advocacy and industry groups are working towards the goal of having certain elements of the rule changed, to ensure that products on the market as of August 8, 2016, do not need to undergo any form of pre-market review by the FDA, while preserving FDA’s ability to inspect, receive ingredient information, require pre-market review of future new products and generally monitor the industry.
Those efforts are underway and may yield results in early 2017 as well. These two types of initiatives, litigation and legislative changes, are at present what we all need to focus on.
Until one, or both initiatives bear fruit, please make sure you comply with all applicable provisions of the Deeming Rule and be cooperative with the FDA as much as practicable.
We will regroup in the first part of 2017 to assess outcomes. Stay focused and positive in the meantime. Also, to quote Longfellow, “Perseverance is a great element of success. If you only knock long enough and loud enough at the gate, you are sure to wake up somebody.”
Patricia Kovacevic is the general counsel and chief compliance officer at Nicopure Labs, the leading e-liquid manufacturer of brands Halo and eVo, and the first company to challenge the FDA Deeming Rule.
Planes at the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. Photo courtesy of Port of Seattle.
A United Airlines Flight scheduled to depart Seattle-Tacoma International Airport for Houston, experienced delays Sunday when a man’s vaporizer caught fire in his checked luggage.
While loading the man’s luggage onto the plane, Komo News reports that the airport’s baggage handlers noticed smoke escaping from the bag.
Firefighters at the scene put out the flames and the crew determined that the cause of the fire was the passenger’s vape pen which was connected to a charger.
The owner later identified his fire-damaged luggage after being escorted from the plane, according to Komo News.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) strictly prohibits batteries of any kind to be stowed away in travelers’ checked baggage due to safety concerns, and vapor products are no exception to this rule.
More Documentary Films about Vaping Finally Emerging
By Tony Ottomanelli II
I have always wondered why there aren’t more people attempting to produce documentary films about the vaping phenomenon.
It’s not an easy venture to execute, but it is surely an adventure beneficial to any willing to contribute. Thus, I was under the assumption when I began researching possible vaping documentaries that there would be a long list.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen some exquisite 10-15 minute short documentaries that covered vaping, but many of them just seemed like promotional videos or a plea to the general public to show how fantastic vaping truly is, which is very entertaining and commendable. However, where were all the balanced feature films that were produced under logical viewpoints?
It was a question that went unanswered. That is until I met Ghyslain Armand from the Vaping Post: www.vapingpost.com. Armand is the filmmaker behind a soon-to-be-released feature length documentary, which investigates answers about why vaping has become such a complicated issue.
The title of his film is “Beyond The Cloud.” The film was fully financed by the VAPEXPO, where Armand had already spent a few years of his professional career. Since 2013, Armand was in charge of the Trades Fair Conferences held at the VAPEXPO in Paris.
As a matter of fact, vaping personality Phil Busardo makes a brief appearance in the film. So, Busardo interviewed Armand on one of his YouTube videos. Busardo says he remembers meeting Armand at the EXPO in Paris a couple years back and was very impressed with Armand’s level of professionalism—especially with how he was able to showcase the overall appearance of the
conferences portion in the VAPEXPO Trades Fair.
What is most important about this film is that its creator did not make it with the intention of generating large amounts of money in return.
“It’s a free movie,” Armand explains. He also points out that, “This is not a film based on pure advocacy—we are not seeking out some hidden truth. We’re simply illustrating an exploration of why vaping is so complicated.”
He added, “Basically, to reveal the complexity of the debate and hoping people learn from it in some way.”
I asked Armand to summarize his film in one sentence. As challenging as this might seem, he quickly responded by saying, “The story of smokers who don’t want to die.”
After hearing this answer to what I expected would be a difficult question to reply to, I was beginning to understand; this was going to be quite an undertaking
for a filmmaker to execute properly, as if it was going to be a kind of documentary unlike any other than we may be used to seeing.
After asking Armand what his primary motivators were to make this film, he told me that after setting up the conferences for the VAPEXPO in France, it seemed to appear as if the audience members were not very attentive. “So I told Patrick, my boss at VAPEXPO, let’s try to reinvent this and think outside the box.”
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it down on paper, then type up a budgetary explanation for where he would need to travel and what he would attempt to accomplish.
Armand tells the brief story of a woman in the film who was diagnosed with lung cancer from years of smoking. Needless to say, she switched to vaping and so her story was, according to Armand, “very touching and has the potential to generate a lot of empathy and emotion among the viewers of this film.”
Armand recalls one of the times he spoke with a doctor in France, who told him something truly interesting. “When you speak with experts, the one’s who are against vaping, are the one’s who don’t spend much time around smokers,” Armand said. It is obvious that this was a statement by the doctor that resonated with Armand a great idea.
For the purposes of this particular film, Armand, along with his videographer, Sebastian Duijndam, traveled to shoot footage in France, Switzerland, and Poland. They also travelled to the U.S. in order to interview individuals in California and New York, including some key representatives from Philip Morris International (PMI).
It’s worth mentioning that it took Armand nearly six months to get an interview. Considering this, he explored the stance of the California Public Health Department’s Still Blowing Smoke campaign and the opposing ‘Not Blowing Smoke’ movement that is at odds with the California’s Public Health Department and has become a mouthpiece for the vapor product industry.
Armand used a number of effective methods to discover what people thought of vaping. In some cases, he would simply just stroll up to random people walking around populated urban areas in order to find some answers, or to just ask people if they even knew what vaping actually was.
Armand says that there are so many people being affected by the vaping phenomenon, that it tends to become unclear where people stand on the issue.
“Just as much as us vapers are advocating and trying to make the world a better place, those who oppose vaping are essentially doing the same thing through their eyes—that’s just their way of thinking.”
“This is their way of making the world better, they’re trying to do their jobs and support their own lifestyles and livelihoods.”
Armand explained the complexity behind many of the answers he’d receive when asking ordinary people on the street what they thought about vaping and whether they believed vapor products were more toxic than traditional tobacco products.
In the teaser trailer for “Beyond The Cloud,” we are shown clips of people responding to the toxicity question Armand was asking of them. Some of these ordinary people replied “I think that thing is more toxic,” when referring to vapor products.
Some other comments consisted of “If they want to poison themselves with it, let them.” which after hearing this, I wish the FDA held the same mindset. Even though I do not agree with the concept that vaping is akin to the act of poisoning, I just would rather hear the FDA say something like, “If they want to do that stuff, let them.”
Another man’s comments to Armand, who held a vape pen and an ordinary tobacco cigarette as visual aides during his interviews, said that he thought it was best to avoid vaping entirely.
I told Armand that I wish I was able to join him as he set out to make his documentary of exploration because this seems like it was an extraordinary learning experience.
Without hesitation, Armand agreed that it was indeed a very eye opening experience and he realized this was far more complicated than he initially thought.
“What I learned was that this is about learning how to reorganize our information as a vaping community,” Armand said. “As vapers, how do we get non-vapers to empathize and relate to where we are coming from? We have to reorganize all of the information, because this has become a very complicated issue.”
He added, “I learned that you must put yourself in the state of mind where you have to explain something very complicated in the simplest way.” After hearing this, I realized that I was hearing a pro vaping stance I’ve never considered or heard before my interview with the documentarian.
I agree with Armand’s concept due to the fact that since the announcement of the FDA regulations, I’ve witnessed a number of advocates really step up their efforts, yet what I’ve also noticed is that there has been a number of businesses within the industry who have simply decided to close down shop and forget this industry ever existed.
It is very frustrating to see working Americans giving up on their dreams and walking away from what had been their livelihoods.
Regardless, Armand continued to explain what he had learned, and proceeded by saying, “As someone who has been writing about vaping for five years… making the film allowed me the opportunity to really hear the other side of the story and that people who are non-vapers or those who are not advocating on behalf of the industry are all genuinely good people merely doing what they think is right.
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Armand if he felt that the information being expressed by those opposing the vapor movement was still misleading the public in a very dangerous way.
“I can tell you that they are not involved with misleading the public in some sort of conspiracy, these ideas they have are just a portion of a collective mindset that is easily misinterpreted as spreading misinformation and lies,” Armand said.
“Perhaps these ideas do sound very much like a series of lies, but in most cases their claims are just a reflection of what they believe to be the truth,” he continued.
To that, all I can say is “wow” simply because I certainly came to experience a realization.
I’m a vaper who writes about vaping and I particularly enjoy writing about all the misleading information that is being spread relentlessly from the inside out. I too am that person and just as much as I am frustrated with the people who refuse to hear my argument, I am also reluctant to hear, listen, absorb or perhaps accept any notions that are in opposition to vapor products and the lifestyle it promotes.
As a sociologist, I should know more than most that this type of mindset is always counterproductive. Then again, it seems as if the FDA was so quick to judge the vaping industry and so effortlessly refused any type of compromise to preserve this lifestyle.
As a result, many American vapers see this type of bureaucratic reaction and then tend to latch onto it by reacting in the same undiplomatic fashion. It seems as if we are not advocating for our cause properly—or are we? It’s difficult to tell. Armand was absolutely correct; this is far more complex than many of us realize.
We need to adopt the same collective mindset with a clear, concise and more simplified message allowing everyone to better relate to our cause. I feel like we, as vapers, are complicating this debate and further pressing issues that may not be worth the effort.
Some ideas should be left alone, others should be embraced. We all just need to better unify our efforts and not be so divided.
As a film, “Beyond The Cloud” is beneficial for the viewers of this film to know that most of this film is in subtitles as Armand interviews quite a few French speaking citizens, yet at the same time, there is also quite a bit of
It’s worth noting that if you intend to watch the “Beyond The Cloud” documentary most of the film will be subtitled, as Armand interviews quite a few French speaking citizens, yet as the same time there is also quite a bit of English speakers featured in the film as well.
The film will be officially shown at the VAPEXPO in Paris, a special Saturday night screening is planned for professionals on September 24, at the conferences portion of this notorious trades fair. Then of course it will be immediately released to the public and made available for viewing on YouTube.
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Elite Vapes in Thornton, Colo. was robbed for the third time in less than a year by a group of unknown suspects who crashed their vehicle into the storefront last Monday (credit: CBS)
A Colorado vape shop has been the target of a string of break-ins and thefts, and it happened again last Monday. Only this time, the perps decided to use their car as a battering ram.
Local police in Thornton, Colo. are currently investigating the bizarre incident, where a group of unknown suspects were videotaped by store surveillance driving a vehicle into Elite Vapes, smashing windows and frames before making off with $2,000 in goods, reports CBS Denver.
The surveillance footage shows the break-in occurring at around 3:45 a.m., with the thieves wearing Halloween masks to conceal their identities.
The store’s owner, Ann Fulgham, told CBS News that the shop’s cash register was left untouched and that the suspects may be under age.
More than $6,000 in store inventory was nabbed in two separate break-ins, both of which occurred within the year, and Monday’s incident makes it a hat trick.
Surveillance video of the break-in at Elite Vapes in Thornton, Colo. (credit: CBS)
“We recovered and we thought we nipped it in the bud, until they drove a car into us,” Fulgham said.
The shaken shop keeper suspects that the group involved in the smash and grab are still at large, and is hoping for tighter security and additional parking lot patrols of the shopping center where Elite Vapes is located.
As atomizers have continued to improve over the last year, designers have begun to specialize in key concept areas, often having to choose between better flavor or bigger clouds in their products offerings.
In our previous issue, I explored the Wismec Theorem, which aims to satisfy the flavor aficionado. This time, I’ll be taking a look at the TFV8 “Cloud Beast” by Smok.
I tested the TFV8 on the Hohm Slice 101 watt temperature control mod. Due to the mod’s 101 watt upper limit, I was restricted to testing the TFV8 with the V8-Q4 atomizer head installed; Smok brands the atomizer heads for the TFV8 as “Hyper Engines”, and for the sake of simplicity, they’ll be referred to hereafter as “head(s).”
The V8-Q4 head was tested in variable wattage mode at a constant 101 watts; Smok advises that this head is rated for a wattage range of between 50-180 watts, but recommends between 90-150 watts, so I expected 101 watts to be slightly on the low end of that recommended spectrum.
The TFV8 arrived in an extremely user-friendly package. After removing a layer of shrink wrap, one need only slide a stylishly illustrated and informative wraparound sleeve from the box, then lift the lid to expose the contents.
Those contents include:
• 1x Assembled TFV8, with pre-installed V8-T8 head
• 1x V8-Q4 head
• x V8 RDA rebuildable atomizer deck (with pre-installed dual Clapton coils, not wicked)
• 1x Replacement tank glass
• 1x User Manual
• 1x baggie of assorted items, including two rubber “bumpers” for the tank (One black, and one orange) a 510 drip tip adapter, etc.
Packages of replacement coil heads are similarly frustration-free; simply open the top of the box and slide out a foil blister pack containing the three enclosed replacement heads.
Specs And Features
We’ll take the TFV8 from the top. A very wide-bore delrin mouthpiece caps off this device. The mouthpiece can be removed, and an included 510 drip tip adapter will allow the user to use a drip tip of his or her choice.
Beneath that, the top cap conceals a soft rubber gasket with a slot-shaped refill port. In order to refill the device, the user need only apply enough pressure to swivel the hinged top cap horizontally in order to expose this gasket.
Closing the top cap after refiling is just as simple, and similarly requires a good deal of applied finger/ hand strength.
As tested, the TFV8 with the V8-Q4 head has an e-liquid capacity of approximately 5.5-6ml. The wall of the expansive tank is glass. However, it is not disclosed whether the tank is pyrex or some other glass type.
Beneath the tank wall, the base features raised squares for the purpose of unscrewing the tank from your mod. It is under these squares that the user finds the airflow control. Finally, we arrive at a standard 510-threaded connection.
Ergonomics And Build Quality
The first thing the user ought to notice about this tank is that it is cosmetically flawless out of the box. The second thing the user may notice, whether opening the device to fill it up for the first time, adjusting the airflow, or unscrewing the tank from its base to change the pre-installed coil head, is that this device is built to extremely tight tolerances.
It will take a fair degree of strength to perform any of the aforementioned tasks successfully. I honestly don’t know
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whether to classify this observation as a pro, a con or both.
The threading on the TFV8 itself is pleasantly smooth. While the threading on the V8 rebuildable deck does feel slightly less so.
The performance of the TFV8 will depend largely on the user’s ability to pump the proper wattage into it. In my case, my most powerful mod is able to deliver only the lower end of the least powerful coil head’s recommended wattage range.
With that said, the TFV8 delivers outstanding performance. The flavor I get isn’t quite as vivid as I would expect from a rebuildable dripping atomizer; however, it’s extremely satisfactory. Throat hit is quick and solid, but it is its visual vapor output that Smok brags about here, and they are well within that right.
My work desk is approximately eight feet away from my living room door, and I can exhale a cloud while sitting at the desk, then watch it hit the living room door and spread outward. Taking into account, once again, that I’m running the quad-coil head rather than the octuplet coil.
Running that coil at the lower end of its recommended range makes for extraordinary vapor production for a sub-ohm tank.
On the other hand, this device goes through e-liquid quite rapidly. Were I able to push it at higher wattages, I imagine that the e-liquid consumption would be even more pronounced.
Recommendation And Conclusion
Here are the pros and cons I’ve found for the TFV8:
Pros: Price Point: The TFV8 can be purchased for $29.50 (plus shipping) from MyVaporeStore.com
E-liquid Capacity: 5-6ml is generous and, provided you don’t chain vape, it should get you through most short outings
Performance: This device delivers excellent flavor and throat hit, as well as absolutely living up to Smok’s nickname for it. It is a cloud beast!
Build Quality: Tightly machined and cosmetically beautiful
Cons: Ergonomics: Because it is so tightly machined, it takes burly finger power to open and close for refills
E-liquid consumption: At its recommended wattage, this device promises to guzzle e-liquid
Wattage requirements: Many users may not yet have mods that can properly power this device
So, would I recommend the TFV8? I give it a qualified “yes.” If you have, or are willing to upgrade to a mod that can kick out the high wattages that these coils demand, and if you don’t mind the device’s tendency to guzzle e-liquid, there’s little chance that you’ll find another product equal to the TFV8 with respect to price and performance.
In the last two articles we’ve covered the Fused Clapton in two variations. This article we’ll be covering yet another variation but a variation that, much like the tri-core alien, brings what seems to be a depth to the flavor production that the “standard” Fused Clapton just doesn’t offer and is somewhat of a markable difference.
As I stated previously, the Fused Clapton is in fact a much more flavorful vaping coil than your standard macro coil. After all,, the wetter the coil the cooler the coil will be which allows a much more flavorful experience. However, when that vapor production is happening with a “standard” Fused Clapton the two cores are making direct contact with one another. Hence the term, “fused.” The contact that is made with some other variations of builds can allow for a bit of clogging of vapor exhaustion which will heat up that vapor. So, staggering the Clapton is the solution to what some may view as an issue.
The issue being that when e-juice reaches a high temperature it can become unsafe so we as builders, well some of us, seek out ways to keep those builds cool while keeping a consistent and even wicking ability to the coil itself.
Staggering or spacing higher gauge wire over a lower gauge core wire then fusing that wire together will create a space where the fused portion is the is what is touching and leaves a bit of breathing room in-between. This boule type will still achieve the desired capability that the “standard” fused Clapton offers as far as trapping juice and wicking well but those spaces that are created seem to add that depth of flavor by allowing a bit more juice to be trapped in-turn allowing the coil to stay cooler during its ramp up until finally VAPORS!
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This type of build during its conception was some what of a wasteful build type. While this coil type was innovated by @squidoode on Instagram I personally learned how to build this type of coil by watching the Staggered Clapton build video tutorial on TwistedMesses YouTube channel where Kent shows how to parallel wrap the wire and then remove one of them to create the spacing. Again, this method is how I make these coils to this day. However, @r4yb4d_tvl introduced a loop method for creating that same consistent spacing that most builders use and is much more efficient in the usage of wire. To see this method in use check The Art of Vaping and Effect Coil Art on YouTube where @squidoode and @d4vidsm17h show how this loop method can be applied.
The staggered fused Clapton because of not only its functionality but sexiness brought on an onslaught of variations with staggering such as, the staggered framed staple, the staple staggerton, half stagger, staggered framed multicore, multicore stagger where up to 13 cores of 30 gauge have been used, staggered aliens etc, etc…
My suggestion, if you’re a new builder, be sure to know your batteries limits and the limits of your device.
Don’t be silly and go messing up that pretty face that your mother worked so hard on creating by experimenting with low ohm builds in an unsafe manor.
Also, take a few minutes and check out those tutorial videos. They are well worth your time and those gentlemen know what they are talking about when it comes to successfully pulling off these builds and are doing you a great service by telling you what you’ll need know in order to do so.
Please advocate for your right to continue vaping with the latest products on the market! Write letters, send emails, do all you can to keep this industry alive. Thank you.